At the end of every episode, I usually ask you, the listening audience, to let me know what you thought about the the story I just told… But tonight, I really want to know what you think. On the surface, it’s a “black widow” story. Or is it? I’m not so sure, but, as usual, I have done my best to separate fact from fiction and give you the full story.

This is the story of black widow, Louise Vermilya.

The bonus content for Patreon members for this episode is another black widow case, and just like the story of Louise Vermilya, I am very divided on if she was actually the villain or the victim.

This is the story of Martha Needle